THE RAPTURE " Fact Or Fallacy"

SECRET RAPTURE

“Fact Or Fallacy?”

By O. Khodjo

Welcome to mis-translations and mis-interpretations

                                       
Rapturist believe that I Thess. 4:13-18 describes a resurrection which includes both the living and the dead uncircumcision saints only, long before the saints of Israel are resurrected at Christ’s second coming. That there will be such a resurrection as outlined in I Thess. 4:13-18, there is no debate among believers. The debate that has raged in religious circles for over a century has to do with the "who and when" of its prophetic fulfillment.

Here Are The Two Main Scenarios The Christians Use To Hold The Rapture Doctrine.

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When will this secret rapture take place in prophetic chronology? There are three popular teachings regarding when Christ returns. Many believe that the final seven years of Daniel’s 70th week prophecy are separated by thousands of years from the first 69 weeks, and that the last seven years of this prophecy are to be fulfilled beginning seven years before Christ’s second coming. This then, apparently, is to be seven years of trouble and tribulation. The last three and one-half years is regarded by many as the "Great Tribulation" (Mat. 24:21)...BOGUSITY! THIS IS NOT TRUE, IS JUST LIES UPON LIES!!!

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Who will be in this secret rapture (resurrection)? Some say only the Body of Christ which they claim is composed of Gentiles and a remnant of Jewish believers only. The Apostles and saints of Israel will supposedly be in a resurrection that occurs much later at a different coming or presence of our Lord Jesus Christ. Others believe the Scriptures show that ALL the saints (dead and alive, Jews and Gentiles), are vivified together at Christ’s one and only second coming.

One camp teaches that the rapture will occur before the Great Tribulation and; therefore, are known as pre-tribulationists. A second camp teaches that the rapture occurs in the middle of the seven-year week of Daniel are known as mid-tribulationists. And a third camp teaches that the rapture occurs at the end of the Great Tribulation. They are known as post-tribulationists.
Isn’t This Funny, For The Church To Be Going Round In Square Circles? Yet Still They Always Talk About Waiting Upon The Spirit To Reveal The Understanding Of Bible Passages. Ask Yourself, Have They Understood 1 Thess. 4:14-18 Through The Spirit Or It Is Their Own Interpretation?


DANIELS PROPHECY IN A SHORT SUMMARY

THE “Prophet” Daniel lived more than 500 years before the birth of Jesus. Nevertheless, GOD revealed to Daniel information that would make it possible to pinpoint the time when Jesus would be anointed, or appointed, as the Messiah, or Christ. Daniel was told: Daniel had a prophecy from GOD

Daniel 9

21 While I was praying, the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the first vision, came to me about the time of the evening sacrifice. He was exhausted.

22 He informed me, "Daniel, this time I have come to give you insight.

 23 As soon as you began to make your request, a reply was sent. I have come to give you the reply because you are highly respected. So study the message, and understand the vision.

24 "Seventy sets of seven time periods have been assigned for your people and your holy city. These time periods will serve to bring an end to rebellion, to stop sin, to forgive wrongs, to usher in everlasting righteousness, to put a seal on a prophet's vision, and to anoint the Most Holy One. 

25 Learn, then, and understand that from the time the command is given to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the anointed prince comes, seven sets of seven time periods and sixty-two sets of seven time periods will pass. Jerusalem will be restored and rebuilt with a city square and a moat during the troubles of those times.

26 But after the sixty-two sets of seven time periods, the Anointed One will be cut off and have nothing. The city and the holy place will be destroyed with the prince who is to come. His end will come with a flood until the end of the destructive war that has been determined.

27 He will confirm his promise with many for one set of seven time periods. In the middle of the seven time periods, he will stop the sacrifices and food offerings. This will happen along with disgusting things that cause destruction until those time periods come to an end. It has been determined that this will happen to those who destroy the city."Daniel 9: 21-27 GOD'S WORD® Translation.

All Rapturists uses this prophecy to execute the Tribulation period and the second coming of CHRIST. Is it true though, or they are just trying to make a doctrine stand by forcing a prophecy to support it?

Let’s try and break down the prophecy by the help of the spirit of GOD and the knowledge/wisdom given unto us from above.

To determine the time of the Messiah’s arrival, first we need to learn the starting point of the period leading to the Messiah. According to the prophecy, it is Vs. 25 “from the going forth of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem.” When did this “going forth of the word” take place? According to the Bible writer Nehemiah, the word went forth to rebuild the walls around Jerusalem “in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king.” (Nehemiah 2:1, 5-8) Historians confirm that the year 474 B.C.E. was Artaxerxes’ first full year as ruler. Therefore, the 20th year of his rule was 455 B.C.E. Now we have the starting point for Daniel’s Messianic prophecy, that is, 455 B.C.E.

Daniel indicates how long the time period leading to the arrival of “Messiah the Leader” would last. The prophecy mentions “seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks” a total of 69 weeks. How long is this period of time? Several Bible translations note that these are, not weeks of seven days, but weeks of years. That is, each week represents seven years. This concept of weeks of years, or seven-year units, was familiar to Jews of ancient times. For instance, they observed a Sabbath year every seventh year. (Exodus 23:10, 11) Therefore, the prophetic 69 weeks amount to 69 units of 7 years each, or a total of 483 years.

Now all we must do is count. If we count from 455 B.C.E., 483 years takes us to the year 29 C.E. That was exactly the year when Jesus was baptized by JOHN THE BAPTIST and became the Messiah! (Luke 3:1, 2, 21, 22) Is that not a remarkable fulfillment of Bible prophecy?

Are You Hearing This For The First Time? There is more to come, hold on tight.  Daniel is known to have given The Most Accurate Prophecies Of All Times By Bible scholars and Historians Yet, Daniel Is Not Counted As One Of The Prophets In The BIBLE - Amazing HUH?

The interpretation to Daniels prophecy is very much of a deep writing and very lengthy, I will release that as a separate letter soon. This is just a summary to support this letter(Rapture).

From 455 B.C.E. to 1 B.C.E. = 454 years. From 1 B.C.E. to 1 C.E. = one year (there was no zero year). And from 1 C.E. to 29 C.E. = 28 years. Adding these three figures gives us the total of 483 years. Jesus was “cut off” in death in 33 C.E., during the 69½ (70th week of years). (Daniel 9:24, 26). The rest of the 3½ weeks of years was the time the apostles were in full power and the gentiles were grafted into the tree of life (Cornelius being the beginning of that, exactly the 70 year), Please mail me if u don’t understand this calculations…

“SEVENTY WEEKS”
490 years
7 weeks (49 years)		62 weeks (434 years) ←B.C.E. | C.E.→	1 week (7 years)
455 “The word to restore . . . Jerusalem”	406 Jerusalem rebuilt	29 Messiah arrives	33 Messiah “cut off”	36 End of the “seventy weeks”

(Diagram borrowed from the Jehovah witness website).


The Prophecy Is Not Talking About A 7 Year Tribulation So Please Clear Your Mind Off That. The Churches And Theologians Are All Lying. There Is No 7 Years Tribulations But There Will Be A Tribulation.
Why Are They Forcing A Prophecy To Be What Its Not? Gosh!

Before you start to study the next prophecies given in the Book of Daniel, you will need to look at some basic things:

1 day = 1 year
1 week of years = 7 years
1 threescore = 420 years (60 x 7)
1 Time = 700 years (100x 7)

In the following chart you will see in the first column the exact words taken from the Bible, separated in rows by its relevance, followed in the second column by its analysis and on the third one you'll find, marked in red and underlined, the historic date to start the count followed by the explanation and the year in which every sign took place.

Biblical Text	Analysis	Year
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." " Daniel 9:24 "And after threescore and two weeks, the Messiah shall be cut off, and but not for himself; and the people of the Prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Daniel 9:26	What we should take as a beginning to the correct analysis is to understand, that in Daniel's view, those weeks represented years, so the 70 weeks of Daniel represent 490 years -70 times 7 years- that ended with the death of Jesus the Christ: The outline of these 490 years is what follows. This prophecy of the Messiah relates to both comings (two returns from captivity), and assigns the times thereof. This prophecy, like all the rest of Daniel's consists of two parts, an introductory prophecy and an explanation thereof. The dispersed Jews became a people and city when they first returned to Israel from captivity. There were not one but two returns from captivity, Zerubbabel's and Ezra's; in Zerubbabel's they had only the commission to build the Temple, while in Ezra's they first became a city by a government of their own. Now the years of this Artaxerxes was in the year that for the Persians counted from 457 to 458 B.C. -as stated in The Encyclopedia Britannica. Count the time from such date to the Crucifixion in Golgota, and you will find it to be just 490 years.	457 B.C. If we extract this number to 490 (490-457=33) So, here we see that the 70 weeks of Daniel were completed with the death by crucifixion of Jesus around the year 33 A.D.
"Know also and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to cause to return and to build Jerusalem, unto the Messiah, the Prince, shall be seven weeks." Daniel 9:25	This means that we should count 49 years from the order to rebuild Jerusalem, and that would be the year the King or Prince will be born on. The former part of the Prophecy relates to the first coming of Christ -The Messiah (anointed in Hebrew)-, being dated to his coming as a Prophet; this being dated to his coming to be Prince or King, is related to His Second Coming. There, the Prophet was consummated, and the most holy anointed: here, he that was anointed comes to be Prince and to reign. Because Daniel's Prophecies extents up to the end of the world; and there is scarce a Prophecy in the Old Testament concerning Christ, which does not in one way or another relate to His Second Coming	51 B.C Now if we extract 49 from this number (51-49) equals 2 B.C. this is the exact year when Jesus the Christ was born. When was Jesus born, FIND OUT?
Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times" Daniel 9:25	Now we shall count from the date Nehemiah came to Jerusalem in the 20th year of this same Artaxerxes, while Ezra still continued there, Neh. 12:3,6, and found the city lying waste, and the houses and wall unbuilt, Neh. 2:17; 7:4, and finished the wall the 25th day of the month Elul, Neh. 6:15, in the 8th year of the King, that is, in September in the year (437 - 436 BC). Count now from this year threescore and two weeks of years, that is 434 years, and the reckoning will end in September. If we check this date with the last prophecy we can see that Jesus the Christ was born in September of the year 2 B.C. It is a known fact that the Gregoryan calendar that we use everyday, starts its count from the year of the alleged birth date of Jesus which was decided by the Roman Church without any factual substantiation at all. And even the day of birth was decided to make it coincide with the Roman festivities at the last week of every year. Luke's account of the birth of Jesus states differently and very clearly: "And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night" Luke 2:8. In other words, surely it was not Winter season (the shepherds were out at night).	436 B.C. Lets count from these year threescore and two weeks 420+14=434 (436-434=2 B.C.)
"Yet shall he confirm the covenant with many for one week." Daniel 9.27	Did Jesus confirm His covenant of love and mercy with Daniel's people for 7 years? There was a 7 year period between the death of Christ and the time the Gospel was sent out to the Gentiles at the calling of Cornelius. This is the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy.	5 A.D. The most probable year of Cornelius calling. Shortly after that, Saulus will start his work all through the Ancient world ("confirm the covenant with many"), spreading the teachings of Christ.
"And in half a week he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" Daniel 9.27	Which sacrifice and oblation will the Messiah cause to cease? Those of the traditions and rituals carried on in Jerusalem's Second Temple. And the ceasing of all rights, when, by the war of the Romans upon the Jews the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed, which war, after some commotions, began in the 13th year of Nero, A.D. 67, in the Spring when Vespasian with an army invaded them; and ended in the second year of Vespasian, A.D.70 in autumn, September 7, when Titus took the city, having burnt the Temple 27 days before; so that it lasted three years and an half! Daniel's prophecy mentions a 3 1/2 year period (the half week of years) after which Temple sacrifices would cease.	67 A.D If we add to this year 1/2 week(67+31/2=701/2) then we have: September 7th 70 A.D. Year of the destruction of the Second Temple of Jerusalem and the beginning of the Diaspora, the exile of Israel that ended in May 1948.
"How long shall it be to the end of these wonders...it shall be for a time, times and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these shall be finished" Daniel 12:6,7 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not (let him that readeth understand) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains...for in those days shall be affliction such as was not from the beginning of the Creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be...but in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that in heaven shall be shaken. Ant then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory...verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done". Mark 13:14,19,24,25,26,30, Matthew 24:30, 31,34	Following Daniel's count in which he used the figure of "week of years", we can assume that "time" is a week of centuries; therefore, one time equals seven centuries and so forth. This is the time to be counted starting from the beginning of the prophecy, which was in the third year of Cyrus, king of Persia (556 BC), until humanity reaches the end of times. The span of time that Daniel's prophecy covers, includes the signs of the opening of the Sixth Seal and with it, of the Third Era, as explained by Jesus the Christ.	556 BC If we extract time, times and and a half to 556 (700+1400+350=2450) then we have: 2450-556= 1894 that aligns with the stage of the communications of the Holy Spirit in Mexico, at the dawning of the Third Era.
"Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build JERUSALEM unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks..." Daniel 9:25 "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars.....And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth near."Luke 21:25 & 28)	Now in this verse notice the clue about Jerusalem. Biblecast scholars missed that before and used the wrong date. But why is it wrong? Because Israel's capital was not Jerusalem but until two years later. Amazingly, the resulting date is the same as when the world wide diffusion of The Third Testament started on 1444000.net, aligning with an outstanding sign in the stars	May 14, 1948 The proclamation of a Jewish state in Palestine.   January 23rd 1950 The proclamation of Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the Seat of the Knesset Now, if we add the 49 years (1950+49) equals 1999   January 23rd 1999 The beginning of the worldwide propagation of The Third Testament in the 140000.net website. Also the date of a unique event in the Cosmos.

Sometimes we hear just the term "rapture," and other times we hear of the "secret rapture."

The word “rapture” simply means “caught up” they are referring to Latin word rapio, which does literally mean “caught up.” It is the word used to translate the Greek word in 1 Thess. 4:17 harpazō. What they are leaving out is that there is nothing in the Bible about a returning of those “caught up” in 1 Thess. 4:17 back to earth seven years later?, which is taught in the Rapture doctrine. They are, in short, being deceitful by trying to imply that they are using the word “rapture” with the same literal meaning it had in the Latin translation of the New Testament.                   The fact is, when they use the word “rapture” they are referring to a very important part of their               Pre-millennia-list ideology.

The main premise of the rapture theory has to do with whether I Thess. 4:13-18 is an earlier and separate resurrection (rapture or snatching away) than the resurrection mentioned in Matt. 24 and also the book of Revelation. We will consider the main arguments used in favor of the rapture theory by those who use accurate translations and have a good understanding of other Scriptural truths, such as the sovereignty of God and the salvation of all. I will avoid answering all of the Christian Fundamentalist views of the rapture as their arguments in favor of a rapture add very little. LETS ANSWER SOME FEW THEORIES OF THE RAPTURE DOCTRINE Rapturist Theory: Many attempts have been made to identify the revelations in Daniel, Zechariah, Matthew and Revelation with Paul's revelations here I Thess. 4:13-18 and in I Corinthians 15. There are some similarities, especially in the use of such terms as "trumpet," "clouds" and "presence" (or "coming"). But it is the differences which make the difference! ANSWER: This is from the rapturist point of view…Do "the differences in scripture make the difference?" That is, if the events described in one account are different from the events described in another account, does that necessarily prove that we are being presented with two totally different occurrences which will happen at two different times? This is probably the biggest argument that teachers of the rapture theory use to defend their teaching. "The differences make the difference." This statement might sound reasonable on the surface, but is it absolutely true? The real answer is that more information is needed to make such a determination than what is presented in these statements. Let us be careful that we are not thrown by the word "different." Many times in Scriptural accounts of something, we are presented with "additional" information, or "more" information, and not "different contradictory" information. The Scriptures do not contradict. One account might leave out a piece of information, while another account might add a piece of information, yet they do not contradict. I hope to make this abundantly clear in the following pages. Let me present a number of "different" examples to broaden our understanding of this restricted statement which allows for only one supposed conclusion. We all remember the story of the three blind men from India who were allowed to touch three different parts of an elephant. All three blind men gave totally different reports on what they felt and what they thought this animal was like. Now, did the differences that all three men reported, really prove that they were touching three entirely different animals and not just one single ELEPHANT? This is not difficult to understand. Surely we can see and understand this from the four gospels. Many events are presented "differently," from Matthew to Mark to Luke to John, but if they don't contradict, they can still be the same event. Here are some examples of different facts that do not represent different events. DIFFERENT DETAILS--SAME EVENT Concerning Paul’s conversion on the road to Damascus, we read in Acts 9:7 "Now the men who are journeying with him stood dumbfounded, hearing, indeed, the sound, yet beholding no one" But we read in Acts 22:9, "Now those who are with me gaze, indeed, at the light, yet they hear not the voice of Him Who is speaking to me." In the first account Paul’s companions: Hear but don’t See In the second account Paul's companions: See but don’t Hear If we adopt the same logic used by Rapturists, that things that differ in details must be different events, then we must conclude that Saul [Paul] was converted twice on two different trips to Damascus! YEAH RIGHT!! THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO CLASS ONE AND STUDY AFRESH …nkwaseasem!!! Let’s look at a major event in the four Gospels, the crucifixion of our Lord. I will point out just a few seemingly different or even contradictory statements from the four Gospels in the same way rapturists point out differences in accounts of our Lord’s second coming. Here then are a few differences in the accounts: Judas greets Jesus in the garden with: 1."Rejoice, Rabbi!" (Mat. 26:49),    but,   "Rabbi; Rabbi" in (Mark 14:45). 2. Matt. 26:49 says of Judas, "And he kisses Him fondly," but in John’s account Judas doesn’t kiss Jesus at all to identify Him. In John 18:5-9, Jesus, in fact, identifies Himself: "Whom are you seeking?" They answered Him, "Jesus, the Nazarene." Jesus is saying to them, "I am He." Again, then, He inquires of them, "Whom are you seeking?" Now they Said, "Jesus, the Nazarene." Jesus answered, "I said to you that I am He." 3. In Matt. 26:53 Jesus says, "Or are you supposing that I am not able to entreat My Father, and at present He will station by My side more than twelve legions of messengers?" Mark, Luke, and John do not make mention of these twelve legions of messengers. 4. In Luke 22:50 "a certain one of them smites the slave of the chief priest and amputates his right ear," and Jesus "touching the ear, He heals him" (Ver. 51). In John 18:10, Simon Peter strikes off the ear of the chief priest’s slave, but in this account Jesus does not heal it. Are we catching the scenario. Wake up people of GOD and stop following stupidity! 5. Mark 14:43 tells us that the ones who came to the garden looking for Jesus were, "the chief priests, Scribes, and elders." Whereas Matt. 26:47 mentions only, "the chief priests and elders." A whole category of people is left out--the scribes. Are we witnessing two different crucifixions at two different times? Later we will see how Rapturists treat a scripture that fails to mention a specific group of people, such as "the dead." Their reasoning: "If they aren’t mentioned; they aren’t included." And therefore, they must be different events. bogusity! 6. Luke 22:61 says, "Ere a cock crows today, you will be renouncing me thrice."  Mark 14:30 says, "... you, today, in this night, ere a cock crows twice, thrice will be denouncing me." 7. Mark 14:54 says that they took Jesus from the garden to Caiaphas, the chief priest. But, John 18:13, says, "And they bind Him, and led Him away to Hannas, for he was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, who was the chief priest of that year." 8. Luke 23:33 says two malefactors were hanged with Jesus. Matt. 27:38 says two robbers were crucified with Jesus. Also, Jesus promised one of the malefactors, life in paradise (Luke 23:39). Jesus didn’t promise anyone paradise in Matthew or Mark. 9. Luke 23:7 says that Pilate sends Jesus to Herod. Herod returns Jesus back to Pilate clothed in splendid attire (Ver. 11). There is no other account of this trip to Herod. Did this unusual event take place at a different crucifixion? 10. "And as they led Him away, getting hold of a certain Simon, a Cyrenian, coming from the field, they place the cross on him to carry behind Jesus" (Luke 23:26). However, John 19:17 says, "And, bearing the cross Himself, He came out to what is termed a Skull’s place." 11. Matt. 27:34 says that they gave Jesus "hey gave him to drink vinegar mixed with gall, and having tasted, he would not drink.," while Mark 15:23 says that they gave Him "Then they offered him wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.” Were there two or more different crucifixions? Were there two or more different Saviors? There are many more differences in the accounts of our Lord’s crucifixion than there are differences in the accounts of His second coming. Why then does no one believe or teach that there were two or more crucifixions of our Lord, yet millions believe He will return a second time, TWICE?BECAUSE THEY ARE READING TWO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS- Bogus! When making a statement like, "But it is the differences which make the difference," to argue in favour of two distinct events, it must be proved that there are "contradictions" and not merely "differences." On the nightly news, for example, we constantly view "different" accounts of the SAME EVENT by the separate news networks. I believe the above expositor would make his point clearer by stating: "But it is the CONTRADICTIONS that make the difference." Most of us can easily agree with that statement

RESURRECTION IS NEVER A SECRET

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 15: 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery (SECRET): We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.

So what was the "secret" that Paul wants us to know? The secret is new information regarding the resurrection that was not known or ever taught before. I Cor. 15:51-53 lists the following new information with reference to an old subject:

A. Not all shall be put to repose [death]

B. We all shall be changed

C. In an instant, in the twinkle of an eye

D. At the last trump

E. The dead will be roused incorruptible, and we shall be changed

F. For this corruptible must put on incorruption

G. This mortal put on immortality

I Cor. 15: 5, "... He was seen by Cephas, thereupon by the twelve. Thereupon he was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the majorities are remaining hitherto, yet some were put to repose also."

There is no question that "... those also, who are put to repose in Christ ..." in Vs.18 includes "... some were put to repose ..." of the "five hundred brethren" in Vs.6 of this same chapter. It is the one resurrection of Christ that is their hope and it is the one resurrection of all the Saints, of which Paul teaches, that will be their realization of that hope.

The very first aspect of this secret is the fact that

"We all, indeed, shall not be put to repose [death]" (I Cor. 15:51).

That was never taught before. But what of those who were put to repose?

"For He will be trumpeting, and the dead [repose] will be roused incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (Vs. 51-52)

This also is part of the secret Paul is revealing. Some of those who were put to repose in verse 6 (Jewish Saints in Jerusalem), will be in this resurrection with Paul! If some of those put to repose of the 500 witnesses will be resurrected with Paul, then of necessity, all of the Jewish saints will be resurrected with Paul and all the saints (I Thess. 3:13). Hence, they are roused in one resurrection, all at the same time--at the last trump.

THE DAY OF THE LORD

Rapturist Theory: Paul ...introduces this matter to the Thessalonians who knew all about the day of the Lord (I Thess. 5:2).

ANSWER: Did they really "know all about the day of the Lord?" Apparently not, else why does Paul have to correct them regarding the events of "the day of the Lord?" What Paul did say, was

"... for you yourselves are accurately aware that the day of the Lord is as a thief in the night--thus is it coming!"

That is all that is written concerning their knowledge of the events of this day. And well they should have known that much, seeing that it was taught many years earlier by Christ Himself (Matt. 24:43, Luke 12:39, John 10:3, Rev. 16:15). Evidence shows that the four gospel accounts were circulated before Thessalonians was written.

If the Thessalonians "knew all about the day of the Lord," they would not have had to be warned so sternly by their Apostle. Notice:

"Now we are asking you, brethren, for the sake of the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to Him, that you be not quickly shaken from your mind, nor yet be alarmed, either through spirit, or through word, or through an epistle as through us, as that the day of the Lord is present. No one should be deluding you by any method, for, should not the apostasy be coming first and the man of lawlessness be unveiled, the son of destruction" (II Thes. 2:1-4).

The Thessalonians did not comprehend at all the events leading up to the day of the Lord. They may have thought that they were already in the day of the Lord. So Paul informs them of the necessary prophetic events yet to be fulfilled before that day can arrive, and comforts them with:

"Yet faithful is the Lord, Who will be establishing you and guarding you from the wicked one" (Ch. 3:3).

Rapturist Theory: Rapturist thinks the day of the lord includes the tribulation.

ANSWER: A careful examination of the Scriptures will show that "the day of the Lord" does not include the tribulation or the great tribulation. "The day of the Lord" and "the tribulation" are different terms, and the Scriptures do separate them. They are not overlapping events as we shall clearly see.

This time of "great tribulation" or "great affliction" (Jer. 30:7), is so great, that we are told that such an event will occur only once in the history of the world (Mat 24:21). Therefore, it is impossible that there can be two such events--only one can be of the greatest magnitude ever. Is it therefore possible that this event is a part of the "great day of the Lord" as suggested by rapture defenders? No, it is not. Here’s the proof:

PROOF OF WHEN THE DAY OF THE LORD WILL COME

Let us be clear, that the "day of the Lord" is the time period of Christ’s return to this earth to punish Babylon the Great and to pour out His righteous indignation on her (and on those nations who follow and worship her) for her evil crimes of inhumanity and blasphemy. Here is the order of events (Mat. 24:29-30). It’s as simple as one, two, three:

1.   ²⁹"Immediately AFTER the affliction [great affliction, or great tribulation], of those days ...

2.    

"... the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not be giving her beams, and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken ...

3.   ³⁰"And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of Mankind in heaven, and then all the tribes of the land shall grieve, and they shall see the Son of Mankind coming on the clouds of heaven with power and much glory."

The "day of the Lord," the day that the Lord comes, clearly is "after" the great affliction, and "after" the heavenly signs. The book of Joel gives us a second confirmation:

"Alas! Alas! Alas for the day! For near is the DAY OF THE LORD. And as devastation from Him Who-Suffices is it coming" Joel 1:15

"For coming is the DAY OF THE LORD! A day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and murkiness” Joel 2:2

"The heavens quake, the sun and the moon are somber, and the stars gather in their brightness ... before His army [Rev. 19:11] (Joel 2:10)

"And He will spare His people" Joel 2:18

"And I will give MIRACLES IN THE HEAVENS above, And signs on the earth, Blood and fire and pillars of smoke, The sun shall be turned to darkness, And the moon to blood, BEFORE the coming of the DAY OF THE LORD, the great and fearful day" Joel 2:30-31

So we have this event neatly book-ended with references to the "great affliction" and the "heavenly signs." Matt. 24:29 clearly tells us that "immediately AFTER" the great affliction or tribulation of those days, the signs in the sun, moon and stars occur, followed by the return of Christ--the day of the Lord. And Joel 2:31 clearly tells us that the signs in the heavens occur "BEFORE" the coming of the day of the Lord. As to the chronology of these grand events, there can be no honest dispute--the day of the Lord does not include the great tribulation, but comes after the great tribulation, and after the heavenly signs.

The "great affliction" comes before the heavenly signs (Mat. 24:29) and the "day of the Lord"--which is when God’s indignation is poured out (a day of "darkness and gloominess") comes after the heavenly signs (Joel 2:21). Or, so as to not confuse anyone, we can say that, the heavenly signs come after the great tribulation, but before the day of the Lord.

Who do u believe? The word of God or the theologians,? Wake up people of God… we have been deceived for far too long, no more Sunday school!!!

DAY OF THE LORD COMES AS A THIEF

"Darkness and gloom" is not being compared with "a thief in the night," at all. The world is in darkness and gloom, but the actual "coming" of our Lord is in no way analogous to "gloom and darkness." How can anyone even suggest that the Lord’s coming is as a thief is comparable to night, darkness, or gloom, when the Scriptures plainly tell us that,

"... even as the lightning is coming out from the east and is appearing as far as the west, thus shall be the PRESENCE of the Son of Mankind" (Matt. 24:27).

Nothing is as bright as lightning--not even the sun. No one will know when our Lord comes, but when He appears, everyone on earth will know!

"... then all the tribes of the land shall grieve, and they shall see the Son of Mankind coming on the clouds of heaven with power and much GLORY"! (Mat. 24:30).

"Power," "Glory," and "LIGHTNING" have no fellowship with "darkness," "evil" and "gloom"!

Furthermore, the fact that Christ is coming "as" "a thief in the night" has absolutely nothing to do with either an actual thief or actual night time. And, likewise, it has nothing to do with negativism. This is figurative language!!!. This is not to be taken literally. Let us be clear, that Jesus Christ is not coming as a thief, to steal! And He is not coming at night so that no one can see Him coming (the aspect of His coming as "lightning" should dispel any such idea).

If we would let the Scriptures speak to us and explain things to us, it would become abundantly clear that there is only one aspect of Christ’s coming that is applicable to "a thief in the night." Actually, the phrase "in the night" is not even necessary to our understanding of this idiom. In fact, most Scripture references even drop the aspect of "in the night" and refer only to "a thief."

"Now that be knowing, for if the householder were aware in what watch the thief is coming, he would watch, and would not let his house be tunneled into" (Mat. 24:43). (Night is not mentioned).

"Now the day of the Lord will be arriving as a thief ..." (II Pet. 3:10). (Night is not mentioned).

"Now this you know, that if the householder were aware at what hour the thief is coming, he would watch ..." (Lk. 12:39). (Night is not mentioned).

"Now you brethren, are not in darkness, that the day may be overtaking you as a thief ..." (I Thes. 5:4). (Night is not mentioned).

"I shall be arriving on you as a thief ..."(Rev. 3:3) (Night is not mentioned).

"Lo! I am coming as a thief! Happy is he who is watching ..." (Rev. 16:15). (Night is not mentioned).

From all these Scriptures it is clear that "in the night" is not an important aspect of this idiom. It’s just that most thieves do come at night, but it is not necessary that a thief come at night in order to be perfectly suited to the one aspect of Christ’s coming that is likened to the coming of a thief, or surely six separate Scriptures would not have left "in the night" out of this idiom.

1. "... if the householder were aware in what watch the thief is coming, he would watch ..." (Mat. 24:43). But he didn’t know when and neither will anyone else know when He returns.
2. "Now, concerning that day and hour no one is aware, neither the messengers of the heavens, nor the Son ..."(Mat. 24:36)
3. "For even as the days of Noah, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind… "...for as they were in the days before the deluge ... and did not know till the deluge came ..." (Mat. 24:37-39)
4. "Be watching, then, for you are not aware on what day your Lord is Coming" (Matt. 24:42).
5. "... for in an hour which you are not supposing, the Son of Mankind is coming" (Mat. 24:24-44).
6. "... For you are not aware when the lord of the house is coming ..." (Mk 13:35)
7. "Not yours is it to know times or eras ..." (Acts 1:7).
8. "I shall be arriving on you as a thief, and under no circumstances will you be knowing what hour I shall be arriving" (Rev. 3:3).

There we have eight separate Scriptural explanations as to why and how Christ returns as a thief, and not one of these Scriptures connects a thief with the ominousness of gloominess, darkness, and the like. Christ does not return as a thief because it is gloomy out. He does not return as a thief because He will come in the middle of the night. And He does not come as a thief because that He, Himself, is a thief. No, none of these. He comes as a thief, unexpectedly. That’s it. We don’t know when. All eight verses pinpoint the one aspect of unexpectedness!

So the RAPTURIST who says Jesus will come in the night at an unknown hour I don’t agree one bit. Is a Christian hoax, BOGOSITY!

Rapturist Theory: Rapturist dwells on the following scripture to defend that the church will be rapture before the tribulation. Let’s have a closer look

"For God did not appoint us to INDIGNATION ..." (I Thess. 5:9).

ANSWER: At this point in our discussion, it will be helpful to define some words that are often interchanged as if they are virtually one and the same. It is important that we understand the meanings of important words that are wrongly applied by those who teach the rapture:

1. Affliction: Keyword Concordance, anguish, persecution, tribulation, trouble, ill treatment, suffering. Webster’s: affliction, any cause of pain or suffering.

AND

2. Tribulation: Keyword Concordance, affliction Webster’s: tribulation, great misery or distress

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3. Wrath: Keyword Concordance, fury, indignation, vexation Webster’s: wrath, intense anger, rage, fury, vengeance

AND

4. Indignation: Keyword Concordance, anger, vengeance, wrath Webster’s: Adj.-- indignation, expressing anger especially unjust or mean actions. Noun…righteous anger

Although there is somewhat of an overlap in defining these words, we can still get a clear picture as to how these words are used in the Scriptures. Notice that "affliction" and "tribulation" are nearly synonymous. Notice also, that "wrath" and "indignation" are nearly synonymous. "Affliction" can be defined as "tribulation," and "tribulation" can be defined as "affliction." Likewise, "wrath" can be defined as "indignation," and "indignation" can be defined as "wrath." But, the first two words, "affliction and tribulation" are not synonymous with the second two words, "wrath and indignation." There is a giant difference in their usage, and especially when used in a prophetic setting.

Tribulation = Affliction

Indignation = wrath

The Scripture says,

"For God did not appoint us to INDIGNATION ..." (I Thess. 5:9).

It nowhere says that God has not appointed us to trials, troubles, pain, suffering, heartache, disappointment, disease, death, or hurricanes! In fact, Paul himself, tells us that we enter the Kingdom of God by going through a whole lot of these things

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much TRIBULATION enter into the kingdom of God.

Consider the following scripture also:

"Go, for he is a choice instrument of Mine, to bear My name before both the nations and kings, besides the sons of Israel, for I shall be intimating to him how much he must be SUFFERING FOR MY NAME’S SAKE" Acts 9:15-16

I personally, presently, am going through trials, troubles, pain, suffering, disappointment, JOBLESS but, nonetheless, it is a great comfort to me to know that God has not appointed me to His INDIGNATION. Believers are chastised by a wise Father out of LOVE; the nations will be punished by an angry God out of VENGEANCE. Can we not see the difference? (Actually God’s "anger and vengeance" is also out of love, but the nations will certainly not initially perceive it as such).

When we look at all the ways that "indignation" is used in the Greek Scriptures, it becomes overwhelmingly clear that "indignation" is used of God to punish the wicked and stubborn. Indignation is not a direct form of chastisement. No matter how many, how much, how often, how severe your sufferings and tribulations may be, if you love God you can be absolutely guaranteed that not one iota of it is coming upon you in the form of God’s indignation. Here then is how, on whom, and when God pours out His indignation:

"You brood of vipers! Who intimates to you to be fleeing from the impending indignation?" (Matt. 3:7).

"For God’s indignation is being revealed from heaven on all the irreverence and injustice of men ..." (Rom. 1:18).

"Yet, in accord with your hardness and unrepentant heart you are hoarding for yourself indignation in the day of indignation and revelation of the just judgment of God ..." (Rom. 2:5).

"Much rather, then, being now justified in His blood, we shall be saved from indignation, through Him" (Rom. 5:9).

"Now if God, wanting to display His indignation and to make His powerful doings known, carries, with much patience, the vessels of indignation ..." (Rom. 9:22).

"Being at peace with all mankind, you are not avenging yourselves, beloved, but be giving place to His indignation, for it is written, "Mine is vengeance! I will repay! The Lord is saying" (Rom. 12:19).

"Let no one be seducing you with empty words, for because of these things the indignation of God is coming on the sons of stubbornness" (Eph. 5:6).

"Deaden, then, your members that are on the earth: prostitution, uncleanness, passion, evil desire and greed, which are idolatry, because of which the indignation of God is coming on the sons of stubbornness ..." (Col. 3:5-6).

"Wherefore, ‘I am disgusted with this generation, and said, Ever are they straying in heart; Yet they know not My ways,’ As I swear in My indignation, If they shall be entering into My rest ...!" (Heb. 3:10-11).

"Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him Who is sitting on the throne, and from the indignation of the Lambkin, for the great day of their indignation came, and who is able to stand? (Rev. 6:17).

"And the nations are angered, and Thy indignation came, and the era for the dead to be judged, and to give their wages to Thy slaves, the prophets, and to the saints and to those fearing Thy name, the small and the great, and to blight those who are blighting the earth" (Rev. 11:18-19).

"If anyone is worshiping the wild beast and its image, and is getting an emblem on his forehead or on his hand, he, also, is drinking of the wine of the fury of God, blended undiluted in the cup of His indignation, and he shall be tormented in fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy messengers and in the sight of the Lambkin" (Rev. 14:10).

"And Babylon the great is brought to remembrance in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fury of His indignation" (Rev. 16:19).

"And He is treading the wine trough of the fury of the indignation of God, the Almighty" (Rev. 19:16).

These are the Greek Scriptures on indignation. Notice that it always comes from God. It is poured out in vengeance upon the unrepentant, the stubborn, the unjust and irreverent, those who worship the beast, etc. Never is God’s indignation poured out on His SAINTS! Not the Gentile saints and not the Jewish saints. The saints of Israel have not "been appointed to indignation", they are not "of the night," they will not "be overtaken as a thief," they are a part of "all the saints," I Thes. 2:14 and 3:13

It is stated that those called in Paul’s message of grace will not go through the:

"Jesus, our Rescuer out of the coming indignation" (I Thes. 1:10),

and

"God did not appoint us to indignation ..." (I Thes. 5:9)… But God did appoint us to AFFLICTIONS [troubles, tribulations] (I Thes. 3:3).

But look at our definitions of words again. God is promising to rescue us out of coming "indignation," not "tribulation." God did not appoint us to "INDIGNATION," but He did appoint us to "TRIBULATION." These terms are not synonymous.

These are the definitions from Webster dictionary online

Indignation: anger aroused by something unjust, unworthy, or mean

Tribulation:  distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution

                           Great difficulty, affliction

These are two different words, so am even surprised the so called scholars (Theologians) are deceiving the Christians and we sit down to listen to all the crap “Nkwaseasem”! Can’t u read for yourself? Gosh!!!

ISRAEL’S RESURRECTION DAY IS UNKNOWN

Matthew 24:29-31: "Now immediately after the affliction of those days ... the powers of the heavens shall be shaken...and they shall see the Son of Mankind COMING on the clouds of heaven ... And He shall be dispatching His messengers with a loud sounding trumpet, and they shall be assembling His CHOSEN from the four winds ..."

Any questions as to who these chosen are? Pleas think, who are they?

Rev. 11:15-18, "And the seventh messenger trumpets ... The kingdoms of this world became our Lord’s and His Christ’s, and He shall be reigning for the eons of the eons ... And the nations are angered, and Thy indignation came, and the era for the dead to be judged, and to give their wages to Thy SLAVES, the PROPHETS, and to the SAINTS and to those fearing Thy name, the SMALL and the GREAT ..."

This verse includes everyone. Definitely, the dead are raised, and then we have wages to, Thy slaves, the prophets, the saints, those who fear Thy name, the small, and the great. I believe that’s everybody, but who are the chosen?

Rapturist Theory: Rapturists, can we know from this very Scripture (I Thess. 4:17). ALONE whether Christ immediately returns with His saints to earth or does He return to heaven first for a number of years?

ANSWER: We can learn something remarkable from the way that God uses the word "meet" in this Scripture.

"Thereupon we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air." (I Thes. 4:17).

In this verse as in three others, God uses the Greek word apatesis which is translated "to meet." It is distinguished from a half dozen other Greek words which are variously translated, "meet,’ "meet with," "meeting," "meeting with," etc. The Greek word apatesis, is, however, used only three other times.

If one studies the old Greek, it tells us that this word apatesis was used in ancient times to describe the actions of an official welcoming delegation that had been sent "to meet" a visiting dignitary.

The word literally meant, "Meeting and returning with." Not being an etymologist, historian, or scholar, I can’t speak with any authority here, but I can use a concordance and I can read the Scriptures. Let’s look at these three occasions and see if, indeed, this word carries the connotation of "meeting and returning with."

1.   "Now in the middle of the night a clamor occurs: Lo! The bridegroom! Come out to meet [apatesis] Him!" (Matt. 25:6).

After they went out to meet the bridegroom, they didn’t stay outside, but rather they came back inside with the Bridegroom. Remember, it is "midnight" and it is dark--that’s why they took oil for their torches. They went out to meet the Bridegroom, then returned with Him to the house, and locked the door.

2.   When Christ began His entrance into Jerusalem (which was itself a type of His triumphant return to Jerusalem), many people went out with palm fronds to meet Him.

"On the morrow the vast throng, who are coming for the festival, hearing that Jesus is coming into Jerusalem, got fronds of palms and came out to meet [apatesis] Him" (John 12:13).

Needless to say, they did not return with Christ back to Bethany, but returned back into Jerusalem with Christ.

3.   When the saints in Rome heard of Paul’s soon arrival, they went out to meet him.

"And thence the brethren, hearing about us, come to meet [apatesis] us as far as Appius Forum and Three Taverns, perceiving whom, Paul, thanking God, took courage. Now when we entered Rome" (Acts 28:15-16).

And again, it is seen that they returned back to Rome with Paul, they did not return with Paul back to Puteoli.

The fourth time this Greek word apatesis is translated "to meet" is in I Thess. 4:17: "... we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in the clouds, to meet [apatesis] the Lord in the air."

Now I am almost sure that I can hear faint protests in the distance from objecting rapturists. Notwithstanding, based on all the usage's of this word apatesis [to meet], and we read them all, when someone went out to meet someone else, where did they always go next? That’s right, back where they came from. So if God is consistent with the use of this word, then when the saints of I Thess. 4 meet the Lord in the air, they will then return with Christ back to the EARTH!  
This defiles the doctrine of pre-tribulationists, mid-tribulationists, post-tribulationists.

Rapturist Theory: According to rapturist! The living circumcision saints were warned by our Lord to be watching, for only those who watch will be TAKEN along when He comes to Israel. To them the Son of Mankind comes as a thief, and some will be received and OTHERS LEFT FOR JUDGMENT, as it was in the days of Noah (Matt. 24:37:51).

ANSWER: So some are "taken" and others "left." But which is which? Is this a proper interpretation at all?

I just don’t know why Christians want to leave this beautiful prepared earth by Jehovah for us.

RAPTURE OF THE WICKED

As The Days Of Noah Were
"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage...and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And...There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 24:37-40 & 51.

Please consider the following parallels:

Who were eating and drinking in Noah's day before the flood came? The wicked!
Who were eating and drinking before Titus came and besieged Jerusalem 70CE (DANIEL 9:27)? The wicked!


Who were TAKEN AWAY by the flood in Noah's day? The wicked!
Who were TAKEN AWAY by the flood, the army, of Titus in his day 70CE? The wicked!
Who were weeping and grinding their teeth in sorrow in Noah's day when the flood came? The wicked!
Who were weeping and grinding their teeth in sorrow in Titus' day when his flood of soldiers came? The wicked!
Now, who were left, who were spared in the days of Noah when the flood came? The righteous!
And who were left, who were spared in the day of Titus when his flood came? The righteous!
Indeed, it was as the days of Noah were!
Let us set the record straight. The righteous were not taken in 70 CE, and they will not be taken in a future snatching away. These verses do not remotely suggest such a thing. But rather, Jesus was very clearly drawing a comparison between the two events of the flood and the destruction of Jerusalem. He was speaking plainly that in the same manner the wicked were taken by the flood, so it would be with the wicked in 70 CE. And so it was! The wicked of that day were taken in judgment, while the righteous were left. They were spared the judgment of the son of man coming in the authority and power of God.


In Greek a specific word is used to make the distinction. The Greek word for "take" is lambano. It means to take or acquire like I would take a vacation or take a spouse. By adding the simple prefix para the word paralambano is used in Matthew chapter 24 vs. 40. It means to take and destroy. Therefore, one is taken to be destroyed while the other is left. How people overlook this is amazing. All because they want to make the rapture doctrine stand!!


Let me say again, as it was in the days of Noah, so it was with Jerusalem. During the days of Noah, he went into the ark, closed the door, and the flood came. After this the wicked merrymakers were taken away and destroyed by the flood of Jehovah, and I repeat, not Noah! When the flood had run its course the man of righteousness set up a new kingdom (new beginnings). It was a new world, a new age never seen before upon the earth. SO SHALL IT BE IN OUR DAYS-NEW EARTH (NEW KINGDOM)
Therefore, when we read, "As the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be," we should be able to come to the same conclusion as any rational minded person and see that the ones taken at the end of the age were the wicked, and not the righteous. And as it also was in his days, after the end of that came, the new Kingdom was set in the earth, and it was given into the hands of those who were not taken.


If we should read Matthew 24:36-51, and read it very carefully, we would soon see that those taken were the same ones who were cut asunder and the ones who were not taken were the faithful: "Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his Lord hath made ruler over His household, to give them meat in due season.(Vs. 45) Moreover, there is no reason to believe it is not the same today; for it is the same Kingdom as it was after the end of that world in 70 CE. The faithful and wise servants stand to rule over His household. The faithful ones are over comers who have no desire to leave, but rather, to remain right here on this great planet and rule over it in righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, and according to Romans 14:17 that is the Kingdom of God!

For further confirmation of this look at the parable of the wheat and the tares,

Mat. 13: 37-40. “and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the TARES of the field. ³⁷ He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; ³⁸ The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; ³⁹ The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. ⁴⁰ As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. ⁴¹ The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they SHALL GATHER OUT OF HIS KINGDOM ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND, AND THEM WHICH DO INIQUITY; ⁴² And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. ⁴³ Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

"Are gathered and burned in the fire" (Mat. 13:40).

And

"they will gather OUT of His Kingdom all things that offend ..." (Vs. 41).

So the tares (bad one) are gathered out (of the kingdom) and burned and the wheat (good one) is left behind (to posses the land)

Didn’t JESUS clearly pray to His FATHER, to keep the Apostles on this earth and protect them?

"I am not asking that Thou shouldst be taking them AWAY OUT OF THE WORLD, but that Thou shouldst be keeping them from the wicked one" (John 17:15)?

One more,

"Again the Kingdom of heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea [multitudes of people, Rev. 17:15] and gathered of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, BUT THREW (TAKEN) THE BAD AWAY. So shall it be at the end of the age: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire ..." (Mat. 13:47-50).

Clearly the good are retained and kept, but the bad are severed and taken away!

IF EVER THERE SHOULD BE RAPTURE, it will be A RAPTURE OF THE WICKED, not of the saints! Get that clear into your heads people?

Scriptures to show that it was always God’s intention that the righteous remain on this earth:

"The righteous shall never be REMOVED [or raptured]; and the wicked shall not inherit the earth" (Prove. 10:30).

"The righteous shall be recompensed in the EARTH [not raptured to heaven]" (Prov. 11:31).

"Take AWAY the dross from the silver ... Take AWAY the wicked from the King ..." (Prov. 25:4-5).

"They [the wicked] are as stubble before the wind and as chaff that the storm carrieth AWAY” (Job 21:18).

"... take hold of the ends of the earth that the wicked might be shaken OUT of it" (John 38:13).

And finally "... REMOVING those things that are shaken [the wicked] ... that those things that cannot be shaken [the righteous] may REMAIN ... accepting an unshakable kingdom ..." (Heb. 12:27-28).

Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land (earth) and dwell therein FOREVER.


Psalm 37:9-11 For evildoers (WICKED) shall be cut off (destroyed); but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth.


Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger...and He shall destroy the sinners thereof OUT of it (the earth).


Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH (world), and let the wicked be no more.


Psalm 52:5 God shall likewise destroy THEE (THE WICKED) forever; He shall take THEE AWAY, and pluck THEE OUT of thy dwelling place.


So Please Stop Talking About You Being Taken Away, If That Is What You Want Then follow the devil SO YOU WILL BE TAKEN AWAY!!

"... We have a building of God, a house not made by hands, eonian, IN THE HEAVENS. For in this also we are groaning, longing to be dressed in our habitation which is OUT of heaven ..." (II Cor. 5:1).

There are so many Scriptures like this that contradict the rapture theory. Look at this one,

"The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s; but the EARTH hath He given to the children of men" (Psalm 115:6).

I seriously doubt whether anyone could prove to me that the place where God dwells, "heaven," is actually a specific geographical location so many light years from the earth on some galactic rock in outer space. In the same way "eternity" is not "a very long time." They are both a condition or a realm. God is in us, while He is in Heaven, while He is also simultaneously, EVERYWHERE!

There are, of course, dozens of other Scriptures that also speak of Christ’s return to this earth to set up His kingdom, but most of them do not have as many detained events mentioned as do these six references.

CORRELATION OF SIX PROPHECIES ON RETURN OF CHRIST

WITH DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS.

Ref:	Christ Returns	Heavenly setting	Resurrection Judging/rewards Wind & Fire	Trumpets	Messengers	Clouds
Matt. 24:29-31	Son of Man comes	Heaven shaken, Sign of Son of Man in heaven	Assembles His chosen	Loud sounding trumpet	His messengers	On clouds The four winds [air]
I Thes 4:13-18	Presence of the Lord	From heaven With a shout	Dead in Christ, and we snatched away together	Trumpet of God	Chief Messenger	In clouds In the air
II Thes. 1:5-10	Unveiling of the Lord Jesus Christ, Whenever He may be coming	From heaven	Ease [rest] with us [Paul] Dealing out vengeance, Eonin extermination, Glorified in His saints, All who believe		With His powerful messengers	Flaming fire
I Cor 15:22-23 & 50-52	In His presence		Resurrection of dead, All changed, Dead roused  incorrupt.,  Living changed,  Mortal to immortality	At the last trump
Rev. 11:15-18	Christ reigns	Voice in Heaven	Judging the dead (era) Wages to: slaves, saints, prophets, those fearing, small and great	Seventh trumpet [the last trump], Trumpets	Messenger
Rev. 19:11-16	Faithful & True	Heaven opened [Christ] Rides White horse	Judges and battles   in righteousness Blade in His mouth, Smiting nations, Rod of iron		Armies of heaven	Eyes are a flame of fire

So what is the bottom line of all this? I think it is quite simple. I have already shown that the four writers of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did not put the exact same information in their accounts of our Lord’s Crucifixion. But, that does by no means prove that their accounts are, (1) False, (2) Contradictory, or (3) Four different accounts of FOUR DIFFERENT CRUCIFIXIONS! The chart above is likewise, not six accounts of SIX DIFFERENT COMINGS OF OUR LORD! Nor five, nor four, nor three, nor TWO! Jesus Christ returns a second time to rule with ALL His saints--ONCE!

Don’t get married to doctrines that have no Scriptural support. Don’t cling to your bosom a doctrine that is demeaning and divisive or make it an idol of your heart. I know it is hard to admit that we have been wrong and even deceived by Satan and his shinning ministers, but stubbornness is as the sin of witchcraft--give it up! Stop following big big names and titles for they can’t even interpret the bible properly, despite all their crook way of saying let the spirit interpret.

I have considerably more notes on this subject, but I think maybe it is time to bring this paper to an end.

1 Thess 4:17 is the SINGLE Scripture used to justify THE RAPTURE by false doctrine. Based on Scripture interpretation, you cannot make a doctrine on a SINGLE Scripture.

Peter tells us that those who cannot apprehend Paul’s deeper teachings are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE, and therefore, they TWIST these Scriptures to suit their own interpretations. And, not only do they twist these hard to apprehend Scriptures, but Peter says that they are, "... TWISTING ... THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES ALSO ..."!

Peter never mentioned the spirit here but rather knowledge, we are not saying it’s not important to rely on the spirit but our knowledge/wisdom too is very important concerning the word of God.

Romans 10: 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 

He didn’t say the zeal is not based on the spirit.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I guess you had a good read?

Watch out for Part 2